We're doing a specific group of podcasts this summer-- conversations focused on what systemic change looks like, particularly here in California, in the wake of George Floyd’s death.
Each conversation features two people: a young leader who has galvanized others by speaking out and leading demonstration and campaigns, and a "veteran" activist/ decision maker who has been working on race equity and justice issues for decades.
First up: Activist Stevante Clark and Chief Bon Harrison
These are two people who often look at law enforcement from opposing sides: a former police chief, and an activist whose brother's death at the hands of police officers made national headlines and led to California's groundbreaking police-use-of-force law.
The second conversation: Student Xavier Clark and Assemblyman Kevin McCarty
We look at some proposed laws on racial justice and equality that are being put for a vote by the state legislature, followed by California residents on the November ballot. Talking about them are a 19-year-old college student who helped to get 15,000 people protesting on the streets of Oakland last month about police brutality, and a state politician who proposed some of these new laws.
These conversations could have gone in any direction -- listen to find out how the two men agree on some things, disagree on others, and decide where to take this conversation next.